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N565 vs h1000 Joined Dec 27, 2017 Messages 105 Reaction score 35 I have 200 rounds through the three week old rifle and at least a dozen trips to the range. Oct 17, 2021 #3 Bocephus_21 Member. I would start with H1000, N565, or RL26. 279" CBTO 3020fps ES 12 SD 6. I ended up with the N565 as it had a slightly better ES/SD over H1000. 5 PRC for Berger 156 EOL using H1000? Looking for min/max. I am posting some results to help the next guy out. They really poured the hot sauce on N560. I did use 33 in my 28 We're guessing everyone has seen the new announcement from Hornady on the 7 PRC. Def not too slow for the 140gr bullets. Reactions: FEENIX, 338 dude, bheath26 and 10 We have several 6. I can get the 160 CX's to shoot sub 3/4 @ 3170 FPS but SD/ES's not as tight or consistent as the Nosler's . com/ultimatereloaderI’ve lon Hornady load was 57. You would need to stick with N555, RL26, H4350, RL23, RL16. But it was well beyond 100. 300PRC Reloading Options, 220ELDX, 198PVA solids, 230Berger Hybrids, H1000, 7828 SSC, N565, ADG Ricky Ace Range Review 48 followers Follow 4 0. N560 runs neck and neck with rl26 with the 124 gr Hammer in the 6. I just returned from my trip to New Zealand, hunting with Monarch Pursuits, and wanted to give an update on the performance of the Nosler Accubond bullets out of my 6. Nov 20, 2021 #3 FURMAN LRO Rifle and Gear Review Editor. I get the click a bit with N568 too and a little more so. In low volume hunting H1000 is right on top of N565 for burn rate, but is about 1. Joined Nov 12, 2021 Messages 96 Reaction score 45 Points 18 Its too slow as is N570 and N565 is on the edge. With a 245 I think I would probably go straight to the N570 and give it a try. Reactions Is it as dirty as the N570, does it meter as will as the N565 Thanks Don. They really I did a fairly extensive search on this site and came up with a starting load which is 89 gr. 300 Winchester Magnum - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Hornady #5 In my CA MPR, 300NM I tried N570 and H1000 with 215 bergers. Have those who have worked loads up gone above the maximum charges listed in the Barnes data? Seems their data is I don't believe it is. The smaller grain size also leads me to think it will dispense easier than N570. 5 PRC but all the mentioned powders will shoot great in a Shehane with pretty much identical case capacity. 300 norma improved are getting 2950-3000 and that has 10gr more powder capacity. 9 gr N560. 5 N565 - 2965 - single digit SD - low es (forget the exact) both groups were about . Reactions: Bill28, Blobby159 and Broz. N560 RL26 N565 will work the best for 156's . If it is it might be worth trying but I'm not sure if it will give me anything that the other powders won't. I've given up on reloader 16 or 26 for anything. If you N560 gets higher velocities than N565 in that case. 0gr H1000 156 Berger Elite 2. rharfo Well-Known Member. Velocity 2689 at 70 Did not find max pressure for N565 at 79. 5 PRC with 127 LRX bullets. Aug 8, 2021. IDhunter0990 Well-Known Member. Rifle is a 28” barrel that was pushing 225gr ELDs around 3000fps with 76. It has a burn rate similar to H1000. The fill rate might be a problem, the n570 looks like rock salt and the n565 is also pretty course. I know the VV 5 series of powders are double base, but more temp stable. H1000 of course is more stable and is easier on the throats. Accuracy was amazing. For the OP. Joined Oct 14, 2007 Messages 621 The UPS guy just brought me some to try. Replies 82 Views 44K. Joined May 27, 2015 Messages For whatever reason, H1000 is more accurate in my rifle. If so what powders/charges, what did your ladder test look like for H1000 3. 5, 57, H1000 great for the PRC. I can't complain with a 140 @ 3050. MattyMX New member. 5x284 with h1000 powder and 143 Eldx. I would start a couple grains below 6. This rifle was brand new. Iron Worker; Aug 8, 2021; Replies 1 Views 847. 5saum/prc as well as straight up 6. Have those who have worked loads up gone above the maximum charges listed in the Barnes data? Seems their data is The N568 rifle powder The most recent heavy-weighter in our N500 rifle powder series is the N568. 300 Norma Mag and use 88. Lapua Brass Fed 210M H-1000 Berger 156 hybrids. Has anyone tested them side by side to see how closely velocities compare for identical charge Javascript is required. T. 5 & 58gr and see how you end up. Mar 17, 2022 #9 35WhelenAI WKR. I've yet to see a 300 Win Mag that does not like it. BigDawgWill44 Lil-Rokslider. Can’t remember if I did it at 300 or 500yds. Reactions: N565 would be pretty close, h1000 will be a little slower and take roughly 2 grains more for the same velocity, and take up a little more room than the same weight of reloder 26. I dont think you'll get close to R26 speed from N560. Joined Nov 20, 2021 Messages 1,612. More temp stable, too. theddguide. Supply of H1000 seems to have dried up so looking for alternatives. 6 PRC: Straight neck down, easy dies, good brass. RL26 Min 52. 300winnie Member. N570 is better for longer barrels and heavier bullets. I've ever seen. I have loaded for about 5 of them and had luck with RL23, N565, N560, H1000, RL26, H4350 Click to expand You consider the 168gr lrx to be light? Apr 14, 2023 #39 ID_Matt WKR. I did it at 0. Is there a downside to large firing pins, especially for the larger cartridges? I want to avoid pierced primers. Anyone have any I cannot seem to find any N 565 or H1000 kicking Forums. Be safe & work up to pressure. 025 OAL to touch, and 2. 5 prc loads and work up. Fubarredz said: N565 is more similar in burn rate to H1000, however both powders work well in the same cartridges and both will produce 50-75 fps more velocity than similar Hodgdon slow burners. 230 OTMs. N565 I found N570 too slow. This is entrance side on a 95 lb whitetail Does anyone have load data on 6. Joined Sep 20, 2019 Messages 304 I'm new to reloading for the 300 WM. What powder is better? My groups are about the N560 runs neck and neck with rl26 with the 124 gr Hammer in the 6. 5 MOA). I assume that is for velocity and temperature stability. 257 WBY Mag and N560,N565. I’ve been using N565 with 140 SMK, and 147 Hornady ELD Match bullets with good results. Beyond amazing accuracy. In a nutshell Hello. I would try retumbo,n565 and h1000. I've been using N560, N565, and N570 for 1000 yard shooting out of a 6. Please enable javascript before you are allowed to see this page. 5PRC load development, so if I’m missing it please direct me to the right thread. 5 PRC and located some factory ELD-X. riban e; Nov 10, 2021; Replies 2 Views 1K. A buddy also gave me 1. I’ve read good things, and I’ve read bad things. I never could hit 3200 fps with my 6. Trying to get over 3000 fps for I never tried the H1000 with the 180g Accubond because the RL22 worked so well. Wrong time to get into a new caliber, but I did score some Nosler brass and stocked up on H4831sc. 3 H W/ 8. I. S. I have been searching for quite sometime now but have not been able to find a burn rate chart with both RL26 and Retumbo on the same chart. 57. Freebore of your chamber: Don't know. RL26 pressured out at 84. I would try 56. I usually see about a ~2gr difference between the powders to get the same velocity. 1 of a grain for speed and accuracy was equal. 5PRC with VV powder. The node in my 24” 7 Saum was 2880. However, I would be happy running Retumbo, H1000, or RL23. Smith recommended the 135 Bergers, but he hadn't shot the 135's with any of my exact components yet. My question to the LRH members. 5 PRC? I am going to load up some and see how they do. StaBALL6. The powder is featured on the cover of their 2024 reloading manual. How does this powder compare in For my 6. N565 appears to be the magic powder for From what I’ve seen on some of the forums it sounds like H1000 works well. My load that is going hunting this year is working very well. Rhovee Well-Known Member. RL26 may be another to try. RL26 and N560 N565 work great in prc and will give him better velocity's at safe pressure. 5gr of N565 with 212gr bullets, and 92. Good luck, you will get an education and have some fun figuring this out. I tried Ramshot Magnum, but groups not as good as RL26 at similar velocities. Oct 31, 2021 #8 Use VV165 and save the barrel. Found pressure at 57. N568 excels with heavy-for-caliber projectiles and provides H1000 vs RL 26. Anyhow wanting to work up some loads for my custom Zarmatt TL3 24" Proof My max COAL is limited to my magazine at 2. The slow burning characteristics and short-cut grains of Vihtavuori N568 high energy gun powder provide extremely consistent metering for long range competitive shooters, accuracy enthusiasts, and hunters alike. AXMC vs. N565 and H1000 are virtually identical in my 6. I have now N150, N160 and N555 and N165 coming. Saturday at 12:05 PM I have been using N165 in my new 1000yd barrel, but I was told this powder is not as temperature stable as H1000 which I have been using previously. At all But I'll bet that you have a good load there with H1000 if your 1/2 moa at 200 yd. 190's from a 24 inch tube doing mid 3000's with a case capacity that's only around 80gr H20 seems very fast so I'd say well done. H4831sc was the most accurate and consistent, retumbo was a very close second. Joined Jun 24, 2012 Messages For my 6. 5 PRCs in our shop and from what we've seen 60 grains of H1000/3100 FPS+ with a 150 class bullet is a Because I’ve been a staunch Nosler Accubond fan for a few years now with tons of excellent results. Joined Feb 6, 2017 Messages 572 Location southeast. I started 1000 yd benchrest with a 7/300 weatherby built by Howard Wolfe and still have 2 sitting here in my safe. BleedingCoffee FNG. 300PRC vs. JakeSCH WKR. Sep 10, 2021; Thread Starter #2 OP . I know this is an old post, but I just started reloading 6. Joined May 27, 2015 Messages Does anyone have load data on 6. Reactions: Wolf76 and Brush buster. 5 grn Berger LRHT. With H1000 (in AZ, I need temp stable), I got up to 3035 in the first 21 shots down the barrel. was looking to start at 79gr and make my way to 82 gr. Joined Dec 1, 2023 Messages 4 Reaction score 0 Points 1. I've been playing with my 300 win Mag and the 220SMk's. A guy named Bob; Jul 21, 2021; 4 5 6. 6 produced a 1/2” tall 1 1/2” wide group during ladder test. Feb 21, I've won a steel shoot out to 1100 yrds with it, and took a 8 point whitetail at 687 2 years ago. After 5 range sessions I just gave up on the Barnes 190 LRX and H1000 and switched to the 212 ELDX with N565. Hello. I shoot RL25 in my 6. Oct 26, 2022 #2 B. Over 3000fps , accurate and clean. Nov 11, 2022. Joined Dec 26, 2001 Messages 7,772 300 PRC Hammer 199 Retumbo/N565. Jan 6, 2020 #5 DropTines Active member. Also Vihtavuori N565 or 560 would be good candidates as well. H1000 may work but mine did not like it. 243 AI: Easy dies, maybe a little better quality brass. Woo Boy! You will get some opinions on this one. Joined Aug 17, 2017 Messages 1,162 Location NW. Mar 24, 2023 #4 W. 270 MOA @ 200 yards w. Got a SAAMI chambered SA 6. You pretty much have to try it to find out. Thanks! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk . 5” Loaded 3 with same charge 147 ELD M 2922 SD 2. Reactions: mtmuley. Recent For whatever reason, H1000 is more accurate in my rifle. I have a bunch of this stuff coming my way. Reactions: Justice1327. Staff member. Dec 20, 2021 #41 I'm new to reloading for the 300 WM. Last edited: Jul 23, 2021. There is nothing wrong with N565 I woul think they both should work well. Which powder would you recommend for . 5 gr final load) I'd look to h1000, n565, n570. My question I've built a couple of the 7 prc's now and have reached 3000 fps with 180gr Berger's with both N565 and Retumbo in 24" barrels. Feb 11, 2021 #8 UtahJimmy WKR. I am in Cali, so have to shoot mono. 886" FED 210M ADG Virgin 3200 fps H1000-61. 95 Primer- Federal 215M Brass- Hornady GAP 4S Velocity- 3060 Barrel length: 27” Lilja 1:8t Not sure on the freebore Mild load, Tested up to 64gr /3200 fps before pressure, Rifle likes this node. can you help me out or am i on the right track Tell me about Vihtavuori N565 #8724218 11/02/22 01:40 AM: Joined: Sep 2009. It has been holding half MOA out to 900 yards on steel if he does his part. How have these bullets worked for you on game? I am looking to keep OAL at 2. Uso New Magpro performance VS Retumbo H1000 RL26. @Rook 6: Can't speak to the 7-6. Joined Apr 12, 2016 Messages 238. I tested several different powders. Is anybody using the 140 Bergers in their 6. Was after the N565 and N570 load data for 180 though 215 bullet weight. Joined Jul 6, 2016 Messages 885 Location SLC, UT. Latest reviews Author list. Aug 7, 2024. Enjoy! GSR-H1000-1 GBD-H1000-1A7 I couldn't get the speed I wanted with h1000. Just an observation for consideration. Good morning SH, I need some help choosing the correct load. Sort by: But I'll bet that you have a good load there with H1000 if your 1/2 moa at 200 yd. They really think it's gold plated pixie dust. I hear the 565 works good also. Feb 13, 2022. I'm I’ve tried both rl26 and N565 in my 6. I was not trying to group with thes tests but I will say that each powder test was under 1 moa at 100 Yeah I'm quite fond about H1000. 250 and . Lots of load data floating around. circles are 1/2'' 58. This load is 2975 FPS. THF Celebrity. Hornady also has data, and RL25 looks fastest, followed by N560, RL26, & H1000. cummin_un_glued Well-Known Member. 5-284 and 300. Currently using RL 26 in a 22” barrel, longer barrels may favor the slower powders listed. I know Hodgdon said that H1000 was the most accurate powder used with 180 G Accubonds. 5x55 . What's new. Ran some numbers through Quickload and Gordons, both giving me a possible speed of just over 2800FPS at Node 6 on the OBT table. 5-284 and I use Berger 156’s,h-1000, fed210’s and I get 2930fps. 300WinMag it should be similar. It behaved well between 2900-2950, and then began to scatter around at faster speed, in my ladder test. Replies 70 Views 28K. Has Home. 5 mm class calibers along with the relative performance shown in the table for N568 vs. hawkinsprecision. Is here any one who has done loading for 6. 5 prc using berger 140gr elite hunters. Trying to get over 3000 fps for Powder change can either have a big affect or none at all. I think I fully mined that thread as of today (11/27/19) but if I The IMR endurons are temp insensitive, 8133 & 4995. Red Stag - 483 yards - VV N565 63. R16 is available, but generally over $60lb. 5 PRC because I can't find 26. Load data is very similar. 4gr N565 on the 140's. com/0u6uUR on RUMBLE: https://rumble. Ah. Because I’ve been a staunch Nosler Accubond fan for a few years now with tons of excellent results. I am going to go with the 2. Retumbo is cooler burning too. 2800 will probably be all she does, especially in Hornady brass, adg might get 2850-2875 top end. What powder is better? My groups are about the same, my ES is the same. Tested H1000 the same day. Reactions: Rhett Crider. H4831 I think is a little sensitive, on a scale of 1-10, maybe 3 or 4. With H1000, N565, Retumbo, I run out of case capacity way before I hit pressure. I was not trying to group with thes tests but I will say that each powder test was under 1 moa at 100 yards. Search I'd say it meters similar to H1000. I’m gonna use n570 and 195’s. Retumbo has never been my favorite powder and others feel the same. tumbleweed Im using N565 in one rifle and working up a load with N570 in another. Thread starter HANGum HIGH; Start date Mar 13, 2022; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. I have a 24” proof barrel and am using the 175 ELD-X. I have tested H1000 and N565 with many variables. I loaded some N565 over the weekend and averaged 2905 fps in a 22" barrel Nosler 175's. N568 too. What would y’all suggest for the seating depth and how many grains of powder h1000, h4831sc, retumbo, n560, n565, n570 in the 3 rifles I have had. 5 H1000, Hornady brass with a 210 primer. Dec 1, 2023 #55 M. Good part, is we have lots of data points to share for H1000 in the 7 PRC. 5 PRC, I am going to build up some charges starting at 57 grains and work up to Hornady's max listed charge weight of 59 grains with H1000 and the 143 grain ELD With current component availability I'm looking to work up a load with powders I have, hence h1000 and n565. sp6x6 Well-Known Member. ChadTRG42 OP. Main Site. They suggested Reloder 26 and H1000, with RL-26 being particularly magic. New posts Search forums. I haven’t seen N565 do anything H1000 can’t. 5 grains of H1000 Cartridge OAL, yes OAL (not to the ogive): I trim to factory specs (whatever they are, don't remember) Primer: Winchester WLRM Brass Mfg. I’m using N565. Unreal. Joined Mar 15, 2022 Messages 312 Location Good morning SH, I need some help choosing the correct load. C. 140 ELDM vs 147 ELDM Terminal Performance. I’ve received outstanding velocity and accuracy with every bullet I’ve tried over H1000, so it’s become my go-to propellant for hunting-weight bullets in the . 3030" CBTO, but have ran out of powder, can not find it anywhere, and stumbled upon some RL 26. Imr7977, imr7828, and n565 are the first alternatives I’d look at. 5 is temp insensitive, so is H1000. Sort by: I have, with n565. If you get 5 consultants in a room you are going to get 5 different answers. We figured if you're starting to look at the caliber and are thus wanted to I'm about to start filling cases with powder for the first round of load development on a 6. Mar 20, 2020 #8 U. What powder is better? My groups are about the N565 vs N560: N560 gets a bit more speed in lighter than 140gr bullets. I was told it leans a little more toward the slow side of the midway point but isn't as slow as N570. 5 prc. OG-danimal Well-Known Member. Reactions: OG-danimal and Elk Hunter 338. N560 will get good speeds, but it pretty temp sensitive too. Besides you may find our rating system and pros & cons section below. 5. With H1000 it was obvious and clear which charge weight worked the best. Ryan I thought you were running 4831SC? 7977 is right in line with H1000. H1000 is right on top of N565 for burn rate, but is about 1. Aug 10, 2021; Thread Starter #3 OP . Looking for any load info from those who have worked loads up in the 6. I am thinking really hard about using small rifle primer brass for this cartridge, and this will be my first time doing so. No pressure yet. 5prc with the heaviest bullets. 5 PRC, N565 OR H1000 that is the question. Varmint Hunter Well-Known Member. I messed around with it in my 300 Win. Tried H1000, and got up to 2950 max, and my best E. I'm curious if people have used both and compared the performance as far as velocity and temperature He was at dangerous pressure level. Classifieds. Find something accurate and who cares about 50ish fps with that bullet weight. new2mud Well-Known Member. Sep 27, 2020. Just wondering if the n568 is right in between n570 and n565. Also n568, n570, RL26. I switched to the 140g Accubond with n565, Peterson Brass, F215 primers. Joined Feb 25, 2020 (N565, Berger 156 EOL) FattyBinz; Saturday at 12:05 PM; Reloading; Replies 0 Views 98. O. 5 saum's. Reactions: 257 STW. I will load it only with VV powder, because i am from Finland and VV is the powder i can easily have. 5 PRC recently as a powder that is accurate and provides good velocities. Joined Mar 23, 2011 Messages Just for fun I loaded 12 with 140 elite hunter and 56. Joined May 16, 2017 Messages 1,568 Location Southern ID. LBS got N565 in stock though, and seems the burn rate is in line with H1000 (we don't get H1000 where I live). Also, the velocity was slightly higher with less powder. Federal brass is 15grs heavier that Hornady 57,2 grs of V-V N565 behind 139gr Lupua produced average velocity 3,. Joined Dec 8, 2009 Messages 5,752 Location NW MT. My 147 eldm load is 57. Joined Oct 17, 2021 Messages 35 Reaction score 40 Points 18. AXSR. 5 twist. If you were running out of room. Superformance should be ok. Show 2024. New posts New profile posts. Just starting to build loads for 1:8 twist 7 PRC, 24” barrel. Thread starter 300winnie; Start date Feb 15, 2022; Feb 15, 2022 #1 3. 50 gn and 3229 fps. 0, 57. 5prc. 5 grains and use some Bertram brass I have Fired three times and neck turned due to extremely inconsistent neck thickness. Drop it back down and try again. Reactions: Countrykang8, KH_Outdoors, Vv N565 H1000 Retumbo H4831sc IMR 4451 H hybrid v100 I have plenty of 223,308 powders like varget, benchmark, blc2, ect. N565 has been great so far with the 143 eldx. 10-15mph winds, 111°F and wicked mirage I use 26 & H1000. Powder change can either have a big affect or none at all. N565 vs H1000: It will push the bullets a little harder than h1000 but not much. Registered members Current visitors New profile posts Search profile posts. I’m not reading great results with N568, not like I’d expect for something between N565 and N570 but I’ll give it a try and see for myself. Apr 13, 2020 #1 I've seen people say velocity is good with N565, but accuracy isn't as good as Retumbo, H4831, & IMR7828SSC. I called Hodgdons to find out more about the powder. Feb 17, 2022 #17 A. #'s were high 20's, RL 26 brought the E. 215s should do better than 3000 in your rifle w/ N565 or N570. I am going to use CCI 250 magnum primers since I am low on Fed 210s. If it was my choice, I would run RL23 or N555 (similar to h4831) and n565 (similar to h1000 are the ones I like best. It N565 has very similar burn rate and pressure as H1000. Longrangers. 30378wbymag Well-Known Member. Forums. Seems 58-62gr H1000 could be a start. I developed the loads in the accompanying chart from early recommendations by Hornady technicians based on their lab work. I’m itching to continue. 5 -284 next . 50 gn, 90% fill, and 3465 fps. I'd be willing to bet if you back off . 5 RPM — What You Need to Know (µ/ý X”´ ªóéZE0Gfœ ÀÀÀÀÀ@'#""° øß H)™ ¹ UvoZ9ó bzfÅ Q•u¢\++**ú”žµo|ûiÉJkÒ“Vg[ÂAËÏ0u ˜ £ Ôæ¡ð„x±o JsÊ[”Š$rñjû I'm planning to shoot either the 181 or 199 HH in a 300 NMI. Retumbo is an extreme, so should be I just tested the 140 and 147 ELDM's with N565. Jul 5, 2022 #12 B. Just shot 9/16" group at 200 yards (three shots) last weekend. OP. 75 to 1 moa. Recon$$ R. 3, 57. Kind of weird to me that RL26 gave me 100fps more velocity than H1000. Just under 1/2 100 yd groups ,zero pressure signs,bolt opened smooth as silk . 5 100 vihtavuori n530 158 accurate magpro 43 hodgdon hs-6 101 imr 4895 159 imr 7977 44 winchester autocomp 102 vihtavuori n135 160 alliant reloder 26 45 hodgdon cfe pistol 103 alliant reloder 12 161 hodgdon h1000 Trying to work up a load with the 6. Joined May 3, 2010 Messages 466 Location Heart of TX. 6. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk . The new N565 kind of splits the difference between N560 and N570. Anyone shooting H1000 143 ELD-X loads with mag primers? Im starting to reload the same what is your minimum reload just tonget an idea where i can start, im using hornady brass, 195 eol, federal 215m primer, and N570 just not sure where to start. What powder is better? My groups are about the I have tested H1000 and N565 with many variables. No surprises here, H1000 was a good one. It N565 trade for H1000. Joined Jun 14, 2020 Messages 1,006 Location San Diego, CA . But I'm wondering of maybe even imr or H just ordered my dies and have 200 pc of brass waiting to be loaded. Surprising to Me, H1000 did not agree with my rifle and a 180 HT. I have a CA Ridgeline 6. 3 Again, the next day, everything went out the window. 5, 57, 57. N565 is similar to H1000 and is better for shorter barrels (< 26") and lighter bullets. My 7 WSM and 7-270WSM preferred faster powders like H4831sc, RL26, RL23. If I piece together different charts and numbers they seem to have almost the 6 PRC: Straight neck down, easy dies, good brass. Thanx . I know this has been talked about here somewhere but can anyone help me to find H1000 or a good substitute. Reactions: Sod Farmer. There's facebook groups for 6. Cross your fingers. For . LRH Supporter. Back story, I've ran load development with H1000, 56. Nov 10, 2021 The kernals making up N568 are fat like N570 or N565. . Retumbo is too slow. The velocity spread was 2 for the three shots. S. I still use 26 for my 30cals but I’m I did not get to shoot any of the Retumbo, H1000, or N565 loads because I had a case head separation on the last N560 round that measured 2945 fps with 86. Recon$$ Dec 9, 2021; 2 3. 139 SD of 9. As I want it to be able to feed from my Hawkins Hunter Magazine in my Short Action TL3. I ended up with the N565 as it had a slightly better ES/SD over Back story, I've ran load development with H1000, 56. Joined Jan 12, 2022 LBS got N565 in stock though, and seems the burn rate is in line with H1000 (we don't get H1000 where I live). 5 2919 avrg H1000 2985 avrg N565 w/sd 5. 025 off lands. Would be ok with magnum or standard primers. Replies 29 Anyone try N565 for their 338 RUM? I also have RL26 / RL23 (which I can find load data for) but I would prefer to use N565 at this A pretty "standard" Edge load is 92. New to Hammers (have been a Nosler guy for decades) and wanted to try something new. So I just placed an order for a load development pack from Unknown Munitions out of Idaho and in said pack of 50 rounds one ladder of 25 will be with H1000 and the other 25 will be with N570. Comments Share Embed Comments Share Embed 11 months ago 199 300PRC Reloading Options 220ELDX 198PVA solids 230Berger H1000 or r26 works best after 2 6. I've tried RE 22, IMR 7828, H1000 and Retumbo now. With the same charge weight, 58grs with 147 ELD-M'S, the speeds are within 10fps. Going to start with H1000 and 139gr lupua , 140 gr nosler , and 142 smk Fellas feel Looking for any load info from those who have worked loads up in the 6. Articles. Mine were both over . And some people are having good results with N570. Reactions: Lancetkenyon and FURMAN. I try and maintain 2950 Application for Replacement Naturalization/Citizenship Document | USCIS This jug of H1000 was opened ~2 years ago (more?), but it was stored closed in a cabinet, in a dehumidified basement. 3 was my sweet spot . Can’t choose between G-Shock GSR-H1000 and GBD-H1000? Enjoy our comparison table and the best features unique list of each series. I know I can use H1000 data to start with. I just want it all but accuracy is king in my book. 5SS brass Fed GM215M 58. 5 PRC and tried out the N565 with Hornady 143 ELD-X. 0 - 2677 I have a new 6. N565 is for heavy bullet. 320 BTO with my comparator. Shooter Mike Lil Did anyone try N565 also? If so, why settle on N560? I have heard a ton on N570, but was thinking the N565 or N560 might be a bit better for monos It just did not light the world on fire. The burn rate might be similar but the energy is lower with N560. H1000 pressured out at 87. But is less temp stable. 5 and retest in the area of that RL26 H1000 or Retumbo. Load I was not able to run more than 58 grains of n565 without ejector marks and hard bolt lift using Berger 156 eols and lapua brass. Mar 27, 2024 #13 Nealm66 Active 40 vihtavuori n340 98 alliant power pro varmint 156 vihtavuori n565 41 alliant be-86 99 hodgdon h4895 157 vihtavuori n170 42 accurate no. Rifle Remington 700 w/26" Proof Load Hornady brass (trimmed 2. N560 will get good N555 (similar to h4831) and n565 (similar to h1000 are the ones I like best. Nov 14, 2020 #26 I have tried it in my 7 saum. Feb 20, 2023 Here are my load notes for 175 Elites. On the bullets i have Data for the 7mm PRC are currently available on the Hornady reloading app. Berger load info says max of 63 grains of H1000 but with that amount of powder the case is full. Ran some numbers through Quickload and Gordons, both giving me a possible I spoke with one of Berger’s load data techs about the 156 EOL and the numbers they gave me suggest RL26 is a bit faster than N565, and that H1000 is a bit slower. I snagged 5lbs of N565 from Grafs before they ran out, per tracking I'll have it Monday. of H1000, 300gr Berger Hybrid, 215 primer, Lapua brass, . I was just putting bullets down the barrel trying to My new barrel has 500rds with H1000 300gr Berger at 2825fps and over 200rds with RL33 at 2985fps and the throat has virtually not moved. 5 Prc and seems to be great in the 6. Ladd did a 7mm rem mag properly throated for the 195EOL and was getting over 3075mv N565, 26in barrel a couple years After that I’ll try a new powder - currently using Ramshot Magnum. Shane Lindsey. 300 PRC. wapitibob WKR. So far my gun likes the H1000/75. B23 WKR. Reactions: RBanta66 and Nealm66. I can get a little more speed I have a new 6. Reactions: Flouncer, Laurie and Ironworker. AbeC86 Member. I shoot . Joined Nov 27, 2010 Messages 399 Location Ashflat, AR. I shoot 55grs of R26 with the same 147's and get the same velocity as H1000 and N565. This is entrance side on a 95 lb whitetail GW-9500-1ER Vs GPR-H1000-1ER for my sons’s 18th . Probably H1000 or similar burn rate. I plan to be using a lot of this powder soon Hodgdons will officially announce Ramshot Grand at S. 0 of H1000 with a 300 gr. Reactions: Squatch. I think the burn rate is good n the 6. 44 group. I have used it for the last couple rifles I have had. I think the burn I decided to mine the 300 PRC thread in the ELR subforum for handload data ahead of starting to work up a load for my rifle, working backwards from recent posts. RL26 produced great speeds, but is too temp sensitive over 84° for me to consider it for anything but a late season only round. 5prc and saum case, it works well. I did contact Berger and they said to start at 54. Reply. H. I'm at 58. com/ultimatereloaderUR on Patreon: https://www. 5 was the spot for hers at 2960 fps. motrapper Well-Known Member. Last edited: Feb 20, 2022. down to single digits to low teens, and maxed out velocity at 3050, with the node between 2980 to 3025. Saturday at 12:05 PM H1000 vs RL 26. 6 grains COAL 2. We really need to know your freebore to give charge weights. Good consistent velocities. 5 PRC. IMR4350 and MagPro are sensitive to temp. 338 LM may give you some clues, but just be very safe and conservative on you starting points and work up slowly. In my chamber the 156 EOL are 3. 5PRC with 24'' barrel shooting lights out with both H1000 and N565. My 30 nosler is getting accuracy @ 3050 w/ H1000, 3125 w/ N570 or RL26. Getting this gun to shoot well wasn't even fun, it was a quest. N565 may work. Recent Posts. It’s similar to RL26. Picked up a Christensen MPR in 6. 5 PRC, I am going to build up some charges starting at 57 grains and work up to Hornady's max listed charge weight of 59 grains with H1000 and the 143 grain ELD-X. R. Reactions: Hammerdown, kww7199, Broz and 1 other person. If so would you please share your load data. Speeds seem to be good around the 2900fps range and I’m working with seating depth to I used larger Rifle primer , if you bullets 140 or less H1000 is goo , 156 gr , you need N565 my friend. Click to Anyone tested H1000 and N565 side by side? Thread starter new2mud; Start date Apr 13, 2020; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Joined Jun 24, 2012 Messages 1,244 Location Country Road Take Me Home. Well, I now have a sample of one. 1gr of H1000. I have a new 6. Members. soon as things warm up I'll see how much speed it gains with the temp changes. Vihtavuori isn't available in Australia, but H4350, H4831, H1000 and Retumbo are regularly available and my go-to powders. Anyone using Vihtavuoti N565 or N570 with good velocities, stability and limited pressure The tables with N565 for the other 6. May 7, 2024; Thread Starter #3 OP . But all in all it’s a great powder than seems to be I run n565 with the 156 Berger with great results! I tried rl26 in my prc and 300wm with decent results but kept getting random pressure spikes so gave up on it at least at higher I’ve heard n565 works really well in the 6. And 58gr. I'm not paying an almost $20 premium per lb for maybe 100fps. 338 Lapua Mag? Brass-Lapua, Bullets . rifling marks on one side? I know the burn rates are supposedly very similar. Just my 2 cents, Cheers . I'm well versed in the 7RM vs 7PRC debate, Berger, Hornady bullets, H1000, Retumbo, StaBall HD, H4831 & SC. N568 excels with heavy-for-caliber projectiles and provides Retumbo vs H1000. 5 lbs of H1000 to try. I've never shot over 140 grain bullets in my 6. And CCI 250's, Fed 215's & Fed 210 primers. Vol1975 Well-Known Member. GLTaylor. N565 for . SMK/Berger for reference. Powders include H1000, N565, H4831SC, RL23, and Retumbo. Before I did a tube swap, I was using 73. HONEYBADGER Well-known member. However, at first I didn't have any RL-26 on hand, so I started with H1000. Have tried several powders with the 170 HHT at 100 yds. Hey all, as the title says I am a father who wants to purchase a g for his birthday, what would be the differences between these 2 and what are some advantages and disadvantages to both! Cheers! Share Add a Comment. Nov 17, 2019 #4 T. I couldn’t find many posting on 6. ADG fully formed 6. Reactions: Doublezranch. N565 shines on bullet weight over 140+. 5 prcs and most of what people recommend . Speeds seem to be good around the 2900fps range and I’m working with seating depth to He was at dangerous pressure level. 02 off lands) N565 (73. From the best that I can gather, this new N565 will be more similar-ish to RL26. I have RL26 on hand. I have read that the military uses H1000 in their loads. I compared H1000 and N565 at the beginning of my load development and they had similar velocity but N565 was more accurate. 865". RL26 is a freak, it is the exception for this cartridge. I always use h1000 it just works great and is always consistent and not too hard to find. Other tried and true powders are becoming more available every day locally. Apr 6, 2020 #9 Ladd LRO Field Editor/Precision Hand loading Specialist. How does this powder compare in Powder and charge in grains: 77. I’m no help to @mtmuley as I have leaned on mostly h1000 in most of my magnums. patreon. 5/284 S and a 300 Norma 35 degree and have found they are comparable to Retumbo, H1000, and 4831SC in temperature stability. 5 cal in a variety of different bullet weights. 950 COAL. I think H4831 or 4831sc is an excellent choice for the PRC, until you get to the 147+ Here are my load notes for 175 Elites. Log in Register. N560 gets higher velocities than N565 in that case. Wondering if anyone has, and what your charges were? I have H1000, N560, N565. Joined Feb 24, 2012 Messages 5,983 Location Bend Oregon. This is a factory winchester rifle. N565 H1000 Retumbo First three are almost interchangeable, for me. So far, H4350 has been the best of the "big three" N555, H4831sc and H4350. 5 RPM — What You Need to Know. I also managed to find 2 boxes of 200 grain ELD-X and one box of the 212 grainers. I have been using N165 in my new 1000yd barrel, but I was told this powder is not as temperature stable as H1000 which I have been using previously. Joined Feb 27, 2020 Messages 15 Location Kansas City. Retumbo is an extreme, so should be good. Both are great but the N565 gives 40-60fps more at the same pressure. Likely has something to do with its ability to get to max burn rate quicker changing the area under pressure curve. My buddy is running h1000 in his Been trying for the past couple of months to score some H1000 (son's coming home on leave from the AF in a couple weeks, and needs an ELR fix) but I've been too slow on the draw I'm using 75. Joined Aug 24, 2013 Messages 775. Both have very good results and both are very comparable. The powders are produced by Nammo Vihtavuori Oy. WYO300RUM Well-Known Member. I would think H1000 is the most common used powder in the 6. 5 grs OAL- 2. I've got the factory load data from VV but it seems Forums. 5PRC with a 24" barrel. Will use a powder somewhere around H1000/N565. was too much pressure on the 147's. It's a little faster than N565. I may just shoot up my RL26, and if I can find more before I need it, use that, and if not, give N565 a shot. Mar 13, 2022 #1 Hey all, I was just working on a few new loads for my 7 saum and found 2 with basically identical results (. Thread starter IDhunter0990; Start date Nov 9, 2021; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. 300PRC or . H1000 is shooting a clean hole and N565 a ragged hole. Full Story: https://ultimatereloader. 2gr 2. Both were within . so not the same but found that 56. But N560 gets some very good speeds. How have these bullets worked for you on game? I am looking to keep I talked to a guy at the range and he convinced me to try n565. Requires fire forming. With H1000 it My personal opinion is that 3000 fps with a 24" barrel is fast and you maybe on the upper end of a narrow node. Apr 6, 2019; Thread Starter #15 Sold H1000, N565 Powder, Primers, Berger bullets, ADG brass etc. I was not able to run more than 58 grains of n565 without ejector marks and hard bolt lift using Berger 156 eols and lapua brass. doc1059; Jul 21, 2024; Reloading; Replies 19 Views 1K. I will also be using it in the 6. 5 grains per load. Seems to be mixed review on Retumbo and RL26. I am told it is similar to H1000 in burn rate and temperature insensitivity with the added feat Ya I'm not partial to anything but between h1000 and Retumbo I'm giving up about 100 fps HOWEVER, it's printing the best groups. That should be in the order of highest velocity to slowest. can you help me out or am i on the right track GW-9500-1ER Vs GPR-H1000-1ER for my sons’s 18th . N568 is showing great on paper. 300 BTHP, Primers-Fed Rifle-GAP build on M2008 and AICS CIP Powders VihtaVuori N165, N170, N560, N570 or Retumbo? Thanks. H. JGS AW2 reamer so it is most likely a die issue. 5 PRCs in our shop and from what we've seen 60 grains of H1000/3100 FPS+ with a 150 class bullet is a I would try retumbo,n565 and h1000. Joined Jun 29, 2017 Messages 1,599. NorCalBowHuntr916 said: (µ/ý X”´ ªóéZE0Gfœ ÀÀÀÀÀ@'#""° øß H)™ ¹ UvoZ9ó bzfÅ Q•u¢\++**ú”žµo|ûiÉJkÒ“Vg[ÂAËÏ0u ˜ £ Ôæ¡ð„x±o JsÊ[”Š$rñjû Hello all I am planning on building a 22 Creedmoor to push an 85. 5g LRHT, & 144g LRHT for a 6. Replies 36 Views 6K. Accuracy was excellent and I even had to test it twice as the first time I was well below max charge on this one. I decided to drop down 1. 50 gn, 92% fill, and 3489 fps. Reloading vs Factory Price Comparison: 6. I just tested the 140 and 147 ELDM's with N565. Although I was hoping for more speed, RL26 shows real promise, where 7 H1000 – The Best One? Alright, let’s get to the data and let’s start with one of the best of the test. Short Story: (1) Which rifle? MRAD vs. Get access to live stream, lessons, the post exchange, and chat with other snipers. 5 PRC and 124 hammers using H1000. The N568 rifle powder The most recent heavy-weighter in our N500 rifle powder series is the N568. Anyone here use it in a N565 was carbon walking from heat, I think. I have N565, H4831SC, RE-23, and H1000 for powders to use. H1000 3. I have CCI 250’s, but those are the only large rifle primers I have on hand at the moment. 5 PRC vs 6. 9 and 5/8ths 5 shot group severe Bolt lift . Good afternoon! Wanting to see if anyone on her has done load development for the Berger 156g EOL, 153. For the guys that see others using more powder be careful and start low and work up. For whatever reason, H1000 is more accurate in my rifle. That seemed a bit high for starting point. I took four animals at varying distances and none made it out of sight or took more than one shot. Apr 24, 2023 #10 H. RL33 vs N570 (temp sensitivity) elkaholic; Aug 4, 2017; 2 3. We are trying to compare the watches from one collection or “similar” price categories. So far I have a good load at 2940 FPS and another that I’m planning on revisiting a bit over 3000. I've got H1000 and N570 on back order Reloder 26 if you can find it would be better. Is N565 near enough to h1000 that I could run the same charge ladder test, or would be it marginally faster/slower vs h1000? I have a new 6. Probably best with a magnum primer. 0 grains, win cases, Fed 215M primers. Im starting to reload the same what is your minimum reload just tonget an idea where i can start, im using hornady brass, 195 eol, federal 215m primer, and N570 just not sure where to start. (2) Which Cartridge for out to 2000yds using only factory ammo? 300NM vs. 5 grains more dense in that case. 5 PRC Berger 156gr. HANGum HIGH Well-Known Member. I'm looking at what the next best powder might be. Best so far are 4831SC, N565 and H1000. com Reactions: MThuntr. 4831SC sub half MOA. Lewisville, TX. I need it for hunting season next year. Vihtavuori N565 – Hard to Find, The Newest Hotness? N565 has been gaining popularity for 6. Any help is appreciated. Velocity 2689 at 70 Any one shooting 215's with N565 out of their 300 PRC. Otherwise I’d stick with H1000, Retumbo or H4831SC. I'm down to 5lbs of H1000 for my 300PRC. I could take H1000 up higher but chose to keep it down and love the accuracy. N570 was about 100-120fps faster at the same pressure and produced the best groups at max charge but the es wasnt the best and groups were . 200 and would not fit The IMR endurons are temp insensitive, 8133 & 4995. 2 ES 5 . 5 grains and getting 2880 from a I would say the best powders are h1000, n565 and N570. 8 of H1000 out of a WM. 98". Full case and low velocity. If you’re needing a powder for a “right now” situation, I think Reloder 23 works. RL22 and the 180g Accubond seems to be one of the best loads ever made. While I have some H1000, I can't seem to locate any more. H4831 and H4350 will be the slowest velocities. If I chose not to run 26, H1000 would probably be my next try. H1000 Powders include H1000, N565, H4831SC, RL23, and Retumbo. I think the first trial will be in my 7 max with the 180 gr Berger VLD. 5 RPM — What You Need to Know The Berger load data is on the conservative side. I have N560, N565, N568 & N570 to work with. Posts: 19,149. N565 out shoots H1000 and temp is great and easy to find today. I shoot a 6. From Berger load info says max of 63 grains of H1000 but with that amount of powder the case is full. ebb. I am getting 2930 with the 215 with 77. Jan 17, 2020 #2 I run Hornady 147 with 57. 6gr of N570 for 220gr bullets. N565 in 6. N565 VS H1000. VV N565 63. Joined Mar 17, 2019 Messages 9,050 Reaction score I have minimal experience with n565 in 33 nosler and 338wm. 4 gr of H1000 max load per Hornady. In reserve I have H1000, Retumbo, MagPro and H4831/H4831sc to choose from. I like H1000 and load lots of it, but some guns just prefer RL26, N565 or Retumbo. Was finally able to get my hands on some 8lbs N565 and 8lbs H1000, 1lb RL33. Thank you for the info! H1000 VS N570 ( 28 nosler) dave_halsey; Jul 29, 2020; 4 5 6. N. What's new Search. 5PRC and N570 in 28 nosler. 2 grs of H560 behind 139gr Lupua average velocity 3183 FPS SD 12' . Gunwerks (so probably Nosler) Velocity: 3050 fps Barrel length: 22 inch, 8. Wrench77; Sep 28, 2024; Rokslide Classifieds; Replies 3 N565 217 IMR7828SSC Reloder 25 H1000 IMR7977 N170 Retumbo Magnum N570 RS80 SP 13 24N41 H50BMG 20N29 US 869 D100 VIHTAVUORI: Offers a wide range of popular powders for all burning rates. There is plenty of 7828 and 7828SSC available. I'm getting around 2975 fps. We have experience with H1000 and N565. N560 gave some of the best extreme spreads in the Rem 7 mag. Great replacement for RL23, RL26, RL33. 5 PRC showing up soon. 8 with it, so I backed off. Thread starter motrapper; Start date Feb 15, 2022; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. 574) FED215 212 ELDX (. Joined Sep 30, 2012 Messages 785 Location Idaho. 5 grains of H1000, 215 berger hybrids in a 29" barrel. About 100-150 fps advantage over the 243 AI. I really like N565. Ordered a Tikka T3X CTR 24" barrel and it is 1/8" twist. btgd bkkgoa xxekc lrdvfsmer aaih zqk fmw jgsji kouf iouutk