Sw4350 vs h4350 300 Weatherby Magnum with 190gr. Previous topic - Next topic. Or so I would be assuming. 270 using the 130 TSX BT and H4350, H4831, and Reloder 19. I am looking to standardize on a powder for . Buy Shooters World SW4350 S070-05 Smokeless Gun Powder Online. . Max load for IMR 4350 is listed at 74 grains but I can't get that much IMR in the case, even with serious compression, the bullet will back out. Did a forum search and not too much info save some on their Blackout powder. Joined Aug 6, 2013 Messages Ranked in fastest to slowest of the 4350 derivatives: H4350, IMR4350, Accurate 4350, SW4350. I know they are not identical, but would they be With any of my double rifles, 470 Nitro, 500 nitro or 600OK, I have others, all recoil extremely FASTER with H4350 over ANY other powder. ;D "Much has been made about ball powders being cooler burning than extruded powders, but the fact of the matter is that there really isn't much difference. Oct 24, 2013 #8 J. Z. Seriously. 5 gr h4350? Having a similar burn rate to Accurate 4350 and H4350, Shooters World SW4350 is a high density, single base, extruded tubular propellant. Last year, top F-Class shooter Rick Jensen did a comparison between H4350 and IMR 4451, shooting the two powder in a wide range of temperatures. Dec 15, 2020 #2 Buy Shooters World SW4350 S070-05 Smokeless Gun Powder Online. IMR4350. Effective speed is adjusted by current prices to yield value for money. Heres the reason for my question, I have a lot of IMR4350 on hand as its the powder of choice in my 7mm-08 and 260. 3x74R, 30. Nosler AccuBond using W760 and the elk died. I'm trying H4350, 120gr bt's , Rem brass, Win mag primers. Both organizations recognize mutual safety in the assessment of pressures and Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles IMR4350 vs H4350 in 6. load of H4350 will normally group around 5/8", H4831 a little bigger. And many days My 8 pound can of IMR 4350 is about empty. I have plenty of both these powders so figured I'd give them a try. but working up loads for both For the 6MM AR (Semi Brno308 jagter wrote:Ek het die naweek gaan lading ontwikkeling doen met IMR 4350 in my 30-06 gelaai met 180gr Nosler Partitions, spoed was soos volg 54gr IM4350 se gemiddeld was 2,510 ft/s. I'd love to get your guys' thoughts on this one. Jul 31, 2006 #1 Good morning all. Corresponding loads in IMR 4350 vs H4350? Consulting my reloading manuals, it appears that there is typically 0. Name your price. for Alliant/Hodgdon/Win). I have an IMR 4350 load worked up for my 300 WSM but would like to Either H4350, IMR 4350 or Accurate 4350. More posts you may like H4350 -vs- IMR4350. H4350 has been doing well. Specifications and Features: Good Burn Rate; Extruded I have been trying to get H4350 to work in my rig for two months now with 140 VLD's. com (PRB) published a significant field test of powder temperature stability. Available in 1, 5 and 8 lb. Thread starter Cookie114; Start date Feb 5, 2021; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. S. If you get 1 granule of IMR4350 in a load of H4350 you'll get to throw that piece of brass away when the primer falls out and you might get to throw the extractor or the bolt away too. So lets kick this around a while. SW Long Rifle, or Lovex SO65 is the rough equivalent of 4064. I have Staball 6. 020" off the lands in 4x fired Norma brass. Developing and loading Accurate 4350 in 30-06, Accurate MagPro in 300-WM / 300-PRC / 338-LM, and getting awesome results in my 6. I my self have never seen anywhere that says they are interchangeable. 55gr IMR4350 was 2,600 ft/s en 56gr IMR4350 was 2,700ft/s. 5 PRC Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters H4350 vs 4831sc: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: Hop To : Page 1 of 3 : 1: 2: 3: H4350 vs 4831sc (130gr vs 140gr vs 150gr) tend to perform better, re accuracy, with something other than H4831SC? Re: H4350 vs 4831sc. Campfire Outfitter. Starting to research components and H4350 seems to be a favorite for 6. If I had a good IMR4350 load, I wouldn't change a thing. 5 Creedmoor . Rainy Washington State. 300 Winchester Mag IMR4350 Ave velocity- 2983 Group 1. centershot OP. Plus H4350 is less SW4350 is the slowest of all the 4350 derivatives. Pootyng. Despite SW4350 being an extruded propellant, IMR4350 vs. Since it seems like H4350 is on its cycle of "not available anywhere," (and Hornady dodging questions on social media related to H4350 availability) - anyone try Shooter's World SW4350 for their 6. Jun 14, 2018 330 207. For example, it appears that 46gr IMR 4350 with 165gr bullet would be roughly equivalent to 46. 4 gr and my RL 16 load is 39. Not sure if I want to try to get hole in hole or shoot for a solid . 260ai & 338mag). Any help would be appreciated. Imr4350 vs h4350. I wouldn't expect A4350 to perform just like H4350, so one will have to make some adjustments. 5 creedmoor? Ref: 6. H4350. H4350 in a 260 rem with a 140 gr. I have found that in my one rifle i shoot it in that velocity swings 65 fps in 90*-60*. I had better luck with H4350 getting tighter groups with 140 gr eldm bullets. J. Appreciate any and all input from those who have used the two. Bigjoe38922 Well-Known Member. I can’t find H4350 anywhere, locally or on-line. 8 gr. IMR goes through the powder measure about as smooth as ten penny nails. It also The difference between H4350 and IMR4350 has always been just barely enough that you'd have to work up a new load, if you went from one to the other. 5 Creedmoor. Marks Powder co. I have tried most other powders and just not satisfied with the results. Do any of you folks have any experences using H414, H4350 or, IMR-4350 using a 165 gr. All Hodgdon extruded powders are made by ADI as is IMR-8208 XBR, and Hodgdon's ball and flattened ball powders are made in the US by the St. 250 and was wondering if I can use the same powder for both loads. 2g. The original powder from way back when Accurate was young may be quicker. I will say this with the caveat that you should always follow the published reloading data for the powder you are using (don't mixup loads for H4350 vs IMR 4350): IMR 4350 and H4350 are very similar. Got the QuickLOAD software and it is SW4350 Smokeless Powder is a great choice for heavier bullets in . Smokeless powders only burn on the pellet surfaces. My . Winchester StaBALL 6. 5gr increase for H4350 over the same velocity for IMR 4350. So I plan on not quite starting from scratch. I checked Midsouth again as you suggest: “out of stock – no backorders” on H4350. SW4350 has tremendous capabilities across virtually all long-range class and magnum class centerfire rifle ammunition. Sep 23, 2010 71 0. Hello< is anyone using SW4350? There is limited data for reloading the 6. Joined Jan 30, 2008 Messages 1,082 Location Bismarck, ND. So Gavin, you have 16 lbs. bullet and work up slowly. 338 Lapua with the 250gr A terrific example of this is Hodgdon’s H4350, an extruded propellant that is part of the company’s Extreme Series. I have used it for years in my 7mm Mag, 30-06 and 338 Win. 5x47L and 6x47L with Accurate 4350, It is hotter than H or IMS. brass. I located some IMR 4350 and was wondering if that will be close and as good ? I'm early in load development with a 7 Saum. Will I see a big difference in these two as far as velocity and performance goes being so close together ?? Imr4350 vs h4350. Skip to Content. I wonder if something is wrong with your particular lot of H4350? It's well known as an accurate powder, and commonly used in several cartridges by long-range competitors. I believe this is why it is the most popular powder used by those of us who load for the cartridge. While H4350 has been one of Hodgdon’s most popular powders with shooters for decades, the company has modernized the powder by shortening the grains for improved metering and making it insensitive to hot and cold temperatures. Mach3 #16740708 12/19/21 SW4350 S070 Accurate® 4350 H4350 N550 S071 Accurate® 3100 H4831® Reloader 19 N160 SUPREME 780 Reloader 22 N560 N165 Reloader 25 N170 H1000 D100 H50BMG Reloader 33 US869 20N29 *Buffalo Rifle may be used to make reduced loads in virtually every caliber. Southern Idaho. 300 WSM, so I won't change a thing. 5-. uk/?p=3657 Note also the findings of Handloader magazine's I have shooting buddies that have used it they say charge for charge vs h4350, sw4350 will give lower velocity at the same pressure. Hey guys looking for a load for my 300 win mag. *Guidelines for reduced loads are currently being generated. (Not so with their Imr4350 is good powder, shoots accurately but is pretty dirty compared to h4350. Just seeing if anyone has tried those yet. Can someone suggest a starting charge of StaBall 6. Campfire Hey guys just bought a savage 12fv in 6. Joined Feb 22, 2010 Messages 565 Location Bloomingdale, Mi. The gun is capable of printing small groups as proven with the old 120gr solid base bt with Imr4350 Vs H4350. 270 Winchester, I'm early in load development with a 7 Saum. 243 and the smaller 6. Gameking bullets I They show H4350 with a 4 fps advantage, which is nothing. GSP7; May 20, 2010; Reloading Forum (All Calibers) Replies 3 Views 20,468. 5-Creedmoor with Winchester StaBall 6. One of the best alternatives is IMR 4451, part of IMR’s new Enduron line of powders. Advertise With Us: Search : Smith & Wesson Forum > Ammunition-Gunsmithing > Reloading. I know the H4350 is more temp tolerant but wonder if working up a load with the powder I have (IMR4350) would be very similar to the H4350. Joined Mar 8, 2019 Messages 166 Location Connecticut. If I push the throat out any farther the 168's won't work (unless they're really jumped!) but I'll gain some case capacity that may well help H4350 reach that 2,800 fps velocity. 5gr H4350 for the same velocity. 1 of 2 Go to page. Picked up a jug of H4350 yesterday and plan to use for loading 115NBT in my . If you subsitute IMR4350 for your max H4350 loads you can expect to loose a few primers. H4350 with eldm bullets for if I'm shooting out to 1000. Shooters World SW4350 S070-05 Smokeless Gun Powder 8 lb SW 4350-Skip to Main Content. Joined Nov 30, 2016 In my, & others experience, the currently produced A4350 is notably slower than IMR or H4350 much closer to IMR4831 & almost as slow as SW4350. Ref: 6. H4350 80gr nbt . I picked up a 8lb keg of IMR4350 at a good price and wondered if any of you guys have tried the IMR variant and if so how much difference did you find? The Hornady manual loads for I've tried both 4350's in November in Alaska and H4350 very definitley has the edge in temperature stability. In this video w I know most people and hornady use H4350 for their Creedmoor. Along with H4350, RLs 16 & 17. I’ll buy 8 from you. 5 PRC Guys, I’m just getting into reloading and will start with my 6. Should I make a change? H4350 Ave velocity- 2830 Group- 1. Mar 21, 2011 #4 DrMike Ballistician. Price. BUT It's no where to be found. 75 and that was at the highest charge Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters H4350 vs 4831sc: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: Hop To : Page 1 of 3 : 1: 2: 3: H4350 vs 4831sc (130gr vs 140gr vs 150gr) tend to perform better, re accuracy, with something other than H4831SC? Re: H4350 vs 4831sc. Dosh Well-Known Member. 450 SW4350 S070 451 N 555 452 Supreme 780 WMR 780 453 Power Pro 4000-MR SHP 781 454 Hunter 1741 455 205 456 RP 33 457 IMR 4831 IMR 4831 458 S385 459 TU 7000 460 H4350 461 N 160 462 S071 463 IMR 4955 XPRO40C2-4831 464 SHP 783 465 Reloder 19 RP 14 466 WMR 790 467 SP 12 468 Magpro WC 785 469 N 560 470 A 3100 GD3100SSC Given that 4350 is such a popular burn rate powder, it seems like the Accurate brand of 4350 is not very popular. If I'm just at the range shooting at 500 I use staball and 140 gr hpbt. I also noticed that Nosler in their Version 9 reloading manual list IMR4350 as their most accurate load, over H4350. 5 grains, no pressure signs. Accurate 4350 vs H4350. Items. Recipe Source: ALL. I’m using imr4350 in my . Any advice is appreciated. IMR 4451 Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles 270 win, and H4350 vs IMR4350: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: Hop To : Page 1 of 2 : 1: 2: 270 win, and H4350 vs IMR4350 #3888065 03/12/10. 5 CM? How do you like it? I've had excellent results with Major Pistol in Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles 270 win, and H4350 vs IMR4350: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: Hop To : Page 1 of 2 : 1: 2: 270 win, and H4350 vs IMR4350 #3888065 03/12/10. Im using Hornady brass CCI primers and Hornady bullets in 129 SP Intrlock,140 SP Interlock,140 ELD Match, 140 SST and 120 GMX. User Name: Remember Me? Password: Forum: Register: In researching a powder starting point for loads I see H4350 and H4831 mentioned the most. As with any propellant and load combination, a minor change to any of the components of the test load CAN result in significant shift in ballistic performance. H4350 has always worked for me so that's what I use. 4g at a CBTO H4350 Ave velocity- 2830 Group- 1. I've gotten very good accuracy in My Cooper . I bought a few pounds of Accurate 4350 I always preferred H4350 over the IMR4350 for multiple reasons. 5 CM use H4350 powder, and I have worked up a very accurate load for my 6. Or are they not temperature stable just been thinking about other alternatives with the availability issues of h4350 thanks I'm early in load development with a 7 Saum. Unwrap Day 8 of Buildmas w/ Streamlight Weapon Lights On Sale! H4350, Varget and H1000 are 3 of the most stable powders made. H4350 and Varget. Despite SW4350 being an extruded propellant, I will say this with the caveat that you should always follow the published reloading data for the powder you are using (don't mixup loads for H4350 vs IMR 4350): IMR 4350 and H4350 are very similar. bullet? Thanks in advance. 5CM so have been using 4895 that I My go to load in both my 6. P. double base powders. 410 worst was . I have not tried the H4831sc in my 7 mag but I have burned a good bit of H4350, IMR4831 and IMR7828 and discovered that while H4350 produced the "best" velocities, IMR7828 produced the best groups. With this being said, I think H4350 would work well with heavy 308 bullets (200+ gr) and long barrels. H4350 is ideal in the WSM family of calibers (270, H4350 is a relabelled US version of ADI AR2209 made by Thales / ADI in Mulwala, New South Wales, Australia. centershot. IMR-4350. Aug 20, 2006 944 380. The test was designed to quantify the temperature stability of Hodgdon H4350 and Varget powders compared to IMR’s Enduron line of powders, specifically IMR 4166 and 4451. Jan 3, 2007 #4 Alaska Handloader. Not the powders to seek out as Alliant Re16 equivalents. The difference between the VLD bullet and my QuickLoad data is easily explained by bullet design differences. User actions. 5 PRC. Next to the h4350 it says "hodgdon EXTREME powders. I recommended the SW4350 because accuracy is great and of all the "4350's" , this is the slowest. 0 Items H4350 is made in Australian and is one of "HODGDON EXTREME RIFLE POWDERS" meaning it is "NOT" temp sensitive. Are these the most common powder used in reload for 308win and 6. Search titles only By: Search Advanced search Javascript is required. Hornady IB for my Mule Deer hunt. Mar 5, 2010 #1 I had started out with H4350 then when that got hard to find I started using staball. Thread starter jjohnsonElknewbie; Start date Apr 2, 2023; Apr 2, 2023 #1 jjohnsonElknewbie WKR. May 17th, 2018 Powder Temp Stability — IMR Enduron vs. a master of nothing except bating ;) Anyways this is a fairly newer offering to the best of my knowledge and very affordable. Store. Nothing found for 223, 308, 6. 243 Remington, 6. 1; 2; 3; Next. OP. I'm early in load development with a 7 Saum. I have a stock pile of imr 4350 i use for my browning 270 hunting rifle. 19 AA4350 Ave velocity- 2900 Group- . Mach3 #16740708 12 Improved Military Rifle IMR 7828 SSC. Site-Wide Sales, Back-in-Stock items, New Products and Much More! " *" indicates required fields H4350 is a faster burn rate. How well behaved is H414? 17 hodgdon titegroup 75 norma 200 133 hodgdon h4350 18 alliant american select 76 accurate 2200 134 alliant reloder 17 19 accurate solo 1000 77 alliant reloder 7 135 accurate 4350 20 alliant green dot 78 accurate lt-32 136 norma 204 21 ramshot true blue 79 imr 4198 137 hodgdon hybrid 100v 22 winchester wst 80 hodgdon h4198 138 winchester Running low on H4350 and ordering more. Norma MRP Having a similar burn rate to Accurate 4350 and H4350, Shooters World SW4350 is a high density, single base, extruded tubular propellant. Shooters World PRECISION RIFLE. 270 Winchester, This video is a comparison of two powders: Varget and H4350. Contribute. Shooter's World (Lovex) powders are starting to show up at gun shows in our area. I friend is singing the praises of Alliant Reloader 16 as being better. RokBlog. 0 gr with H4350 in 30-06 using a 165 gr sierra HPBT. Good luck, let us know. The burn rate is slightly slower Want to load my 6. If IMR 4350 is in stock, use it. Right now I have the chamber throated to work with Berger's 168VLD Target & their two 180's, the VLD Hunter & Hybrid. The gun is capable of printing small groups as proven with the old 120gr solid base bt with Nosler ballistic tip with these two powders. Thread starter Jager1; Start date Aug 5, 2011; Aug 5, 2011 #1 Jager1 Beginner. I tried H4350 behind 140 A-maxes today with bad results too. This is because H4350 was the powder Hornady used when they introduced the cartridge. Weird, but I&#039;m not complaining. Hodgdon H4895. Campfire Member. Print. Joined: Aug 2005. We calculate effective 3D speed which estimates gaming performance for the top 12 games. 260 REM, . 5K views 18 replies 15 participants last post by bfrshooter Mar 22, 2019. What I don't get, it that I shoot 162's from my 448 SW4350 S070 449 N 555 450 Supreme 780 WMR 780 451 Power Pro 4000-MR SHP 781 452 Hunter 1741 453 205 454 RP 33 455 IMR 4831 IMR 4831 456 S385 457 TU 7000 458 H4350 459 N 160 460 S071 461 IMR 4955 XPRO40C2-4831 462 SHP 783 463 Reloder 19 464 WMR 790 465 SP 12 466 Magpro WC 785 467 N 560 468 A 3100 GD3100SSC - Reloading - H414, H4350, or IMR-4350 - I am trying to build a load for my 30-06 Sprg. I load and like SF. 0 MOA in all of my CM rifles, much smaller with my target rifles. Improved Military Rifle IMR 7977. As such, it has broad capabilities in moderate calibers where other 4350 derivatives We use cookies to give you the best possible experience. H4350 is an extruded propellant in the Extreme series that has been one of the most popular powders with shooters for decades. g. Newbie Reloading 6. I've never reloaded before but a friend said if I got components and does for my 6. A few great folks on this site have offered up 1 pounders of 555 to me recently, but I’d hate to start testing with only 1lb and then end up liking it and having to find more Has anyone been able to get 140gr ELDMs to around 2,770 FPS with SW4350 (Shooter’s World)? I have a bunch and trying to decide whether it is worth using. 3gr. Buckeye_Tactical; Dec 17, 2023 Graphics Card Rankings (Price vs Performance) December 2024 GPU Rankings. 8 moa, at 42. All three of these powders have given me good accuracy. I just got a PM from a person that says he interchanges IMR 4350 and H4350 in his loading. 5 Creedmoor with H4350 or Superformance and a 143 ELDX. 25-06. 4350 powders. I shoot both SW4350 and Long Rifle. We all agreed we leaned towards Varget for temp sensitivity issues, BUT most of us agreed our overall accuracy was best with the trusted old powder, IMR 4064. The gun is capable of printing small groups as proven with the old 120gr solid base bt with I know most people and hornady use H4350 for their Creedmoor. Unsure which type you have. Thanks in advance MCG August 4 Greetings shooters, Would you mind sharing your successes with 6. Max. 270 Winchester, I had started out with H4350 then when that got hard to find I started using staball. wyohunter99 #7136160 12/02/12. 5creedmoor? Hodgdon H4350 Hodgdon H4895 Hodgdon Varget IMR 4064 IMR 4350 IMR 4895 Reloder-15 Reloder-17 Anything else? I noticed most of the Hodgdon and IMR powders above can be used on both calibers. Ek het goeie groperings gekry op 55gr IMR4350. MaineGuide35, You really can't mix and match powders that have similar numbers (Accurate, IMR, Hodgdon). H4350 vs N560. 5 gr. :grin: Guy . DO NOT MIX EVEN 1 GRANULE OF IMR4350 INTO AN H4350 LOAD. If you get the RL23 it will fall in between the N560 and H4350. I’m shooting 140 noslers Has anyone put there tried that combo and had any success. It might be a good starting point. December 20, 2015, 10:43:39 AM. I ran into an issue with 2 loads and am on a hunt for answers. 5 . During that time, Hodgdon has modernized H4350 by shortening the grains for improved metering and making it insensitive to hot and cold temperatures. IMR4350 vs. I haven't been impressed yet with this combo of components, so it's time for a change. 5CM rifles is with H4350 and 140's. Here is what I have Once fired winchester brass will be FL resizing Hodgdon H4350 powder CCI LR Mag primers or Rem 9 1/2 LR Mag Primers Sierra 180 Gr. Joined Jan 10, 2020 Messages 54 Location Coffeeville Mississippi. 5 creed on the black friday sale. Are H1000 and H4350 powders double or single base? Thread starter harry_x1; Start date Feb 22, 2023; harry_x1. So I am going to attempt to use this bullet from PVA for mule deer and possibly elk this year in my Seekins Havak 6. Posts: 11,178. Payette Sergeant of the Hide. They claim it is, and some agree; however, many others do not. 8fps Shooters World offers clean, consistent, reloading loaders for pistol, rifle and shot shell. 270 Winchester, From my experience I have found that H4350 will shoot about 1 minute higher than IMR at 600 yards, given the same powder weight, bullets etc. IMR4350 is not. targetshooter. I use the Short Cut version because it meters well. With all of these characteristics, Shooters World SW4350 is an excellent choice for handloaders looking to load long range rifle calibers I tried SO-70 / SW4350 last year in a 7mm-08 as part of a 14 powder test series looking at possible UK alternatives to IMR/H4350/H414 which are no longer imported here due to health Accurate Arms 4350 vs IMR 4350 vs H4350 vs Shooters World 4350. Burn rate charts and load data manuals suggest it is I've been using H4350, RL 17, RL15, H4895 and great results with 6. Reply reply More replies More replies. Hodgdon . I have 5+ lbs of Improved Military Rifle IMR 8208 XBR. Shooters World SW4350 Smokeless Powder (8 lbs) by SHOOTERS WORLD Product Overview Having a similar burn rate to Accurate 4350 and H4350, Shooters World SW4350 is a high density, single base, extruded tubular propellant. Go. Please enable javascript before you are allowed to see this page. H4350 in stock. sticknstring Well-Known Member. Login; Register; FESALESRELOADING. 5 creed. How interchangeable would they be? H4350 is slightly slower than IMR4350, I find it actually closer to IMR4831 in the carts. Shooters World SW4350 - 1 lb. 5g. vs the standard $25-26/lb. Jan 3, 2007 #5 Want to experiment with something other than Varget for my son's LR-308. Sharpshooter243 Well-Known Member. Feed it what it likes best. 00 less than IMR 4350. For example, it appears that 46gr IMR 4350 with 165gr bullet would be roughly equivalent to Imr4350 vs h4350. Hodgdon H4350. Same rifle and chronograph. Since they are both extruded powders, they will have almost identical ballistics out of Looking at Hodgdons burn rate chart They list IMR 4350 as the hottest of the three, with the Hodgdon 4350 right behind it, and then RE17 and then AA 4350. Thread starter JMB 1911; Start date Dec 13, 2019; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. IMR4350 has a closer burn rate to H4350 but is quite a bit more temperature sensitive. 5CM to be compared to H4350. W. Forums. Hope this doesn't sound too stupid, I am new at this. ronemus. I ran a 4 grain increase, at each level A4350 was 200+ fps slower than the H4350. My h4350 H4350 is a bit slower burning than the others in my experience. Jump to Latest 14K views 11 replies 4 participants last post by Davers Jan 6, 2011. Joined: Apr 2008. Dec 3, 2008 #1 H4350 was also indicated & proved out in testing to be viable. wsmnut. Shooters World . Lancetkenyon said: H4350, Varget and H1000 are 3 of the most stable powders made. Full Member. bullet. After a little browsing I’ve found a few alternatives and am looking to get people’s opinions Corresponding loads in IMR 4350 vs H4350? Consulting my reloading manuals, it appears that there is typically 0. 6MM GT LOAD DEVELOPMENT WITH H4350Before we dive headfirst into the shallow end, let us take care of some housekeeping notes:Disclaimer: This article is for informational There used to be. 6 grains of H4350 has always given me less than 1. Powder Comparison Test: H4350 vs. Elk went maybe 30 yards, laid down and died. Thread starter sticknstring; Start date Mar 18, 2012; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Charges are 42. I couldn't get enough into a 7mm-08 Lapua case to achieve H4350 MVs with the 160gn SMK in a long-freebore chamber. 30-06. co. I've used IMR4350,H4350 and Accurate4350. I need to replace it. Shooters World SW4350 Extruded Smokeless Powder 8 Lb By Lovex by Shooters World SC NOTE* Shooters World LLC imports and distributes and supports Lovex propellants in the United States. 5 Creedmoor from the Shooters world PDF file. Joined Apr 28, 2011 Messages 87 Location Texas. Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters H4350 vs 4831sc: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: Hop To : Page 1 of 3 : 1: 2: (130gr vs 140gr vs 150gr) tend to perform better, re accuracy, with something other than H4831SC? Re: H4350 vs 4831sc. All will take H1000 & Retumbo loads with far less recoil speed. Log in Register. In my area H4350 is all over the shelves and almost $20. Ok so there is COMPLETELY conflicting information all over the internet about RL-17 and whether or not it is temperature stable. Consensus seems to be that 4350 (whether H or IMR) is too slow for this chambering- especially the heavier 175 grain pills. As mentioned above RL16 and IMR-4451 and are pretty temp stable powders. And that's the way my present jug of H4350 is. Likes: 21. I cannot find the H4895 or the H4350 in stock and can only find the IMR powders. S070/SW4350 is very slow burning, much more so than H4350. 6g, 43. I know that the two also meter different as what I have listed on my Harrell powder measure for IMR 4350 and Hodgdon 4350 are a bit off in numbers for the same weight. Mach3 #16740708 12 Please let me know your experience with these powders. Now I use both. I have had success with 41. Aug 19, 2023 #4 Mike D Texas Well-known member. Both are great powders, just different burn rates. A single base propellant that burns a little faster than H4350. I prefer H4350 because it is more stable under a wider range of temperatures. This time I am using the tried and true H4350. But please understand, SW4350 is not exactly the same propellant as H4350. The H4350 has a grain or so of wiggle room before any pressure signs Finding triple nickel is far harder than finder H4350 or H4831SC (both of which seem quite easy to find online recently. Yes, I know that might sound a little strange, but for whatever reason, Hodgdon h4350 is all over the place locally. My bolt rifle 505 Gibbs was the worst with H4350, so was a bolt rifle in 577 Nitro and my 45-120. seven_miller. H4350's max load is 75. SW4350 has tremendous capabilities across virtually all long-range Hey fellas, I'm new here but hope I'll have a little to offer to the community as time goes on. Same with precision vs varget. And many days H4350 vs. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4064. I've seen it in stock for multiple days now on Powder Valley, Natchez, Brownell's, Hodgdon web sites. But both Well the time has come, just opened my last jar of H4350. My next competition barrel with be 30+ inch and I think im gonna give H4350 a whirl. COM. Joined: Mar 2012. 5mm Creedmoor he'd let me use his press. Some buddies and I were talking about certain powder issues recently. JLP. 243 win. Dec 18, 2014 #3 NO! They are two completely different powders. What differences are you guys seeing in load data for imr 4451 enduron vs your h4350 loads? Apparently the powders act the same except have different powder weight data. Checkout. Indiana. I have data on Hodgdon but not Accurate. I know that they're not interchangeable, but is there a reason that they are u. Posts: 683. Podcast. I can only find some H414. 284win. Joined Mar 16, 2021 Messages 3,636 Location Western Iowa. This is probably a dumb question, but I I haven't tried H4350 with a 165 gr. Since Hodgen owns both is their any difference between the two. I'm only getting around 2700 FPS, . Does anyone have any experience with using H4350 in a . 46gr imr4895 with 165gr nosler ballastic tip. Replies 25 Views 24,961 I’m running low on my 4350 stash and am looking to try some RL16 as I’ve heard some great reports of lower pressure achieving similar or more velocity. My 25-06 prefers H4831 over IMR 4831. I have never used H 4350 but considering getting it. 5 CM using H4350. Ramshot Hunter 50gr of H4350 in a 7mm-08 is way over the max pressure, regardless of bullet brand (at 139 or 140 grains ). 75-1MOA load running faster than H4350 is SW4350 in stock. New posts Search forums. Reloading data has been generated both with European CIP and American SAAMI methods. 22-. 0g, 43. bullet as of yet in my 30-06 but two years ago I shot a cow elk with the 165 gr. CA_Shooter; Apr 5, 2021; Reloading Forum (All Calibers) 2. The gun is capable of printing small groups as Please let me know your experience with these powders. Campfire Regular. I am loading 65. For a very short time, right around the time Hodgdon was introducing the new "extreme" H4350, it was advertising the new powder as "short cut" because they still had some amount of the old powder in stock. Not sure if people use Both powders will deliver supreme accuracy in that cartridge! I use 42. What's new. With all of these characteristics Shooters World SW4350 is an excellent choice for handloaders looking to load long range rifle calibers including 6. Subtotal: View Cart. Thread starter Pyscodog; Start date Nov 20, 2023; Pyscodog. Joined Jan 10, 2008 Messages 2,143. Reloder 19 will generally beat them both, but this borders on hair-splitting. 57gr h4350 with 165 gr hornady sst After 100 yard zero with hornady sst, i decided So I am going to attempt to use this bullet from PVA for mule deer and possibly elk this year in my Seekins Havak 6. H4350, IMR4350, Accurate 4350, SW4350. Pootyng; Sep 11, 2020; Replies 0 Views 542. However, I have a good H4350 load for the . Team WE GOT DYN-O-MITE John Chapter 3 Verse 16 Is H-4350sc? the same rifle powder as H-4350? I found this in my H-L Magazine 2006, that I have been researching. Anybody with experience with these powders, is there any real difference between the 3? i prefer h4350 for Verdict: H4350 IMR 4350 Vs. 300 WM I am I'm early in load development with a 7 Saum. 75 and that was at the highest charge I am at a point that I to purchase more powder. Nov 20, 2023 #1 Still searching for a powder to boost my FPS in the 6. Reactions: Rex Tharp. Hodgdon online notes max of 59. I have had good luck with H4350 just heard good things about Shooters world and thought I would try 17 hodgdon titegroup 75 norma 200 133 hodgdon h4350 18 alliant american select 76 accurate 2200 134 alliant reloder 17 19 accurate solo 1000 77 alliant reloder 7 135 accurate 4350 20 alliant green dot 78 accurate lt-32 136 norma 204 21 ramshot true blue 79 imr 4198 137 hodgdon hybrid 100v 22 winchester wst 80 hodgdon h4198 138 winchester H4350 Vs. There are other powders that can work just as well or maybe even better (e. Getting it done with my 6GT. Ask me how I know. H4350 is very temp stable. Sierra manual notes a max of 54. Recently, however, I've noticed on the Hodgdon website that H4350 loads are often a little lighter than IMR4350 loads, implying H4350 is a little faster. That said, I'm not looking for ultimate speed or 1000 yd shots in my 6. We use the Hornady 140 ELD match bullet and these are loaded based on velocity. I have never used it. I'm looking to essentially copy my h4350 140g eld-m load with the 4451 and some 140g hpbt match bullets. 5 CM. jmad_81 Certainly other powders can work in the CM, some fairly well. Dec 3, 2008 #1 For 120-147gr bullets in a case with the capacity of a Creedmoor, the burn rate of H4350 is very well suited. I have had good luck with H4350 just heard good things about Shooters world and thought I would try Shooters World SW4350 - 8 lb. Joined Mar 27, 2020 Messages 646 Reaction score 498 Points 63 Location North Texas. I am new to reloading so please bare with me. A4350 is slower burning than H4350 and a little more temperature sensitive than H4350 too. I have always believed , "If it ain't broken , don't fix it". I bought a keg of h4350 (upc# 3928850092). My H4350 load is 39. Shooters World SW4350. Mar 18, 2012 #1 A couple of months ago I queried the Forum at large regarding anyone using or trying Shooter's World powders, specifically SW 4350 as I had recently "discovered" that powder and was going to try some. Is H4350 and IMR4350 interchangeable? I currently use IMR4350 for my 30. How close is your charge weight comparing the two powders for the 6. Most powder, including IMR 4350 will see 2-3 fps velocity change for each degree temperature changes. What's new Search. According to my "Burn Rate" chart, IMR4350 is at 137 and H4350 is at 140. 5 to replace 41. Loading for 6. Starting. 5 to use. The H1000 is slower burning and better suited for the magnums such as the 28 nosler and 300 norma. R. The burn rate is slightly slower than H4350 and similar to IMR 4350; however, superior accuracy was noted when tested against H4350 in the 6. Just my comments: It is natural for all other powders used to load 6. Creedmore, 9. wsmnut OP. 35. 5 Creedmoor at 1000 yds and with 123, 130 and 140 gr BTHP. Was under the impression that they are a premium powder. (according to Shooter's World) A new 6. 06 and saw a recipe using H4350 for a . I was shooting a 24" Criterion 6XC with 105 RDFs . ZSteinle Well-Known Member. GR Ok I know this is not the preferred powder for the cartridge. 5 CM I've noticed that most people loading for the 6. I have been going back and forth on what path to go down. Visit us in Upstate, SC. “Against stupidity we have no defense. They are all excellent powders, perform consistently, but are relatively low energy. This powder and Is there any use for the IMR 4350 other than 243, and the 6 mm variants. I love the powder it's been great for my 6. 243 Winchester and . We discussed overall accuracy in 223 Rem & 308 Win. QuickLoad shows that the difference between the two is pretty negligible (difference of about 4fps). Next Last. Thread starter Sharpshooter243; Start date Mar 5, 2010; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Member; Posts: 58; Logged; Imr4350 Vs H4350. I keep reading Varget for 80 grains and under, H4350 for the heavier bullets? Save Some Elk, Shoot A Wolf. May 21, 2010. Your review of H4350 was interesting, but frustrating, too. Most people who claim it is fairly variable with changing temperature agree that it changes about . All velocities in the 3050-3,100 fps range using Fed. Rifle FN Mauser custom, 24" barrel. It's one of the best powder/bullet combos I've run in that old rifle. Nothing new to any of you, this caliber works well with all those powders and bullets. Kmccord Well-Known Member. As such, it has broad capabilities in moderate calibers where other 4350 derivatives cannot reach 100% loading density. So if I ran out of IMR the H4350 is close enough to replace it. Reloder 16) but H4350 has generally been widely available and affordable, it's temp stable, and delivers great accuracy and consistency. Qty. I was just wondering how these two powders compare. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4166. 5. Jr. Shopping Cart 0 Items - $0. Shooters World MATCH RIFLE. All three of these powders have good results on all 3 (per the internet). EDIT: bolt action, 26” barrel, No experience with SW4350 but use H4350 for one of my loads in my AR10 gas gun, and use 42. I have 5+ lbs of IMR4 One of the best alternatives is IMR 4451, part of IMR’s new Enduron line of powders. I’m running 4350 with 140 s Corresponding loads in IMR 4350 vs H4350? Consulting my reloading manuals, it appears that there is typically 0. H4350 – Pellet Sizes. 5 creedmoor or . 06. Rifle IMR 8208 XBR. 5 gr with no compression. A match bullet in front of 41. Nov 8, 2006 37,337 6,036. 300 WSM. The gun is capable of printing small groups as proven with the old 120gr solid base bt with SW4350 Extruded Smokeless Powder is a great choice for heavier bullets in . Not saying this is safe but with the similiar but slightly smaller case use 260 rem 140 gr. Very good powder easy to meter and load with. Posts: 184. 1; 2; Next. Feb 22, 2023 Sigle base vs. I wouldn't interchange them. Thread starter Desert Dan; Start date Dec 26, 2020; Dec 26, 2020 #1 Desert Dan Well-known member. I use it in (. Back in Stock - Seekins Element in 7 PRC in Stock. data but use a 120 gr. 270 prefers IMR 4350 over H4350. Marks, Florida. Didn't buy or look too closely but somehow I wish I had (pistol powder was $18/lb. Berger VLD Hunting bullets? I have a lot of H4350 and was hoping I could use that powder for reloading my Weatherby. I am using what I have been able to get my hands on the last few months. If you do try H4350 post the results Im curious to see how it shoots with the 168s. SW4350, I'm just Any one using their sw4350 as a sub for h4350 if so how do you like it. Bullet entered in the ribs on the right side and destroyed the left lung. A few great folks on this site have offered up 1 pounders of 555 to me recently, but I’d hate to start testing with only 1lb and then end up liking it and having to find more 243 Outdoors - Today we continue with the Hornady 90g ELD-X. 338 LM and . His data suggests that both powders show good temp stability. 338 Lapua with the 250gr From my experience I have found that H4350 will shoot about 1 minute higher than IMR at 600 yards, given the same powder weight, bullets etc. 210 Match primers and Rem. 270 Winchester cartridges to the largest Magnum cartridges. H4350 is closer to 1/2 fps for each degree temperature changes. 356 posts · Joined 2015 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Feb 15, 2019. Several shooters have found this relationship to be true with SW4350, and are impressed with its performance. Sep 7, 2020 #12 With the copper mono's in 145 class and RE23 I'm getting 3100 and a preliminary ES of +/- 3. six speed Discussion starter. High density, single base, tubular propellant similar to Accurate 4350 giving excellent performance from . Thread starter alstar80j; Start date Jul 31, 2006; alstar80j. Hodgdon Varget. I'm very much a student of the game like most of you. Sep 11, 2020. I have both of those on hand, but my GT is still under construction. It usually takes a little more IMR 4350 than H4350 to reach the same velocities and pressure. kujuak. Also KISS. 5 Creedmoor, 270 Win, and 7mm Mauser. H4350 is a faster burning powder and is used a lot in . I am reloading for 6MM AR (H4895) and 6MM Creedmoor (H4350). H4350 vs. Having a similar burn rate to Accurate 4350 and H4350, Shooters World SW4350 is a high density, single base, extruded tubular propellant. H4350 vs RL22. using a 165 gr. However, I'll flag this : I have had awesome results that I think are better than H4350 and that is with old non interesting IMR 4350. I've found load data for Hogdon 4350 but only found Accurate 4350 in stores. I was trying to be conservative. Ranked in fastest to slowest of the 4350 derivatives: H4350, IMR4350, Accurate 4350, SW4350. I've had great results from H4350 & 165 gr bullets from my beat up ol' . Shooters World SW4350 is the slowest of all the 4350 derivatives. Reply. 33 So what does this prove? In my mind this proves 100% that H4350 is the FASTEST burning of the 4350 powders. 5mm Creedmoor, and 300 Winchester Magnum. Thread starter ZSteinle; Start date Dec 3, 2008; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Source . Ramshot Big Game. 33 So what does this prove? In my Years ago I compared IMR4350 to H4350 before it was changed to the Extreme line in my 7mag with 140gr bullets and the IMR4350 was about 100fps faster. From my See my results for Lovex S070 (SW4350) v H4350 here: http://www. The customizable table below combines these factors to bring you the Accurate 4350 vs H4350 . Don't know,maybe it's changed over the years,but I've read a lot about Accurate4350 Finding triple nickel is far harder than finder H4350 or H4831SC (both of which seem quite easy to find online recently. Jump to Latest 6. Did a quick look in 3 books and Hogden site. Die dop volume is baie vol maar die kruit skiet baie Hodgdon 4350 vs imr 4895 in 30-06 savage axis. Mar 12, 2020 #2 Gonna follow I'm curious about this one as well . Joined Jan 23, 2018 Messages 3,767 Location Litchfield Park, Az. If I could find H4350 anywhere I would start with that however I cannot. , St. 5 Creedmoor #14628287 03/03/20. Data 85 has also worked good for me but not as good as H4350 and H4831. During that time, Hodgdon has modernized H4350 We use cookies to give you the best possible experience. 5 Creedmoor: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: Hop To : IMR4350 vs H4350 in 6. Example, 35 Whelen using IMR4895 vs data in Nosler manual and Ken Water's data. Advertisers. And a better powder choice than RL15. DAB . Share: Facebook Pinterest Email Link. The 1st one I came up with is here: IMR 4350 vs H4350. 260. I seem to see H4350 as a frequently lauded powder for loading this round in the 120-140gr bullet loads data. Our figures are checked against thousands of individual user ratings. JMB 1911 Well-Known Member. 42. It gave the highest velocity in EVERY cartridge, sometimes over So I went out and did a little temperature testing this past Memorial Day. Cookie114 Well-Known Member. The gun is capable of printing small groups as proven with the old 120gr solid base bt with Any one have any experience with this powder i just picked up a pound of sw4350 sense i cant find H4350 im loading it in my 300 short just curious if any Home. Shooters World LONG RIFLE. 5 gr h4350, Federal 210 primers, and Berger 130 gr OTMs. This might be due to the latest manufacturing lot of H4350, but I don't know. Dec 13, 2019 #1 Meanwhile - H4350 has been used with excellent results in 1000 yard benchrest, using heavier bullets with the . 346-488-1212 - [email protected] Welcome to Your High Quality Reloading Components' Store! Hello Guest, Login? Hello Guest, Logout? 0. Go Down Pages 1. 5 H4350 if i recall correctly for the same pill (i use the manual from the local sports shop thus dont have it with me). Both should get me around 3000 FPS with a 130 grain bullet according to the books. Davers Discussion starter 4168 posts · Joined 2008 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Jan 6, 2011. Does 10% below sound about right? Following this. The rifle in question is a 358 Norma Mag. Unwrap Day 8 of Buildmas w/ Streamlight Weapon Lights On Sale! - SHOP NOW . 300 WM I am Why do you never see a comparison of these 2 powders in a similar burn rate mentioned as a replacement for h4350. Minuteman. 5 Shooter who would have been satisfied with the 2500 fps of N150 would get better velocity with a less peaky powder. Mar 18, 2012 #1 Varget probably being the most popular. And that is the only reason. Started by kujuak, December 20, 2015, 10:43:39 AM. New to me Your review of H4350 was interesting, but frustrating, too. 1 of 3 Go to page. I’m still in search of a larger jug of N555 to test for my . Despite SW4350 being an extruded propellant, it exhibits good flow characteristics through a volumetric powder dump. HR IC Re: Varget vs. Mar 5, 2010 #1 Hodgdon H4350 Extreme Extruded propellant is a burning speed that has been known to shooters for decades. A couple seasons back, PrecisionRifleBlog. 5's like a 6. 5 Creedmoor, 6mm Dasher, . RL 17 is another option. 35 H4350 Ave velocity- 3045fps Group- 1. RT2506 Well-Known Member. I located some IMR 4350 and was wondering if that will be close and as good ? I have been trying to get H4350 to work in my rig for two months now with 140 VLD's. Best group was . All said, see what Accurate load says. 300 WM, . IMR 4451 Vastly Different Results - H4350 vs RL 16. Joined May 18, 2020 Messages 721 Reaction score 803 Points 93 Location Vail, Arizona. Bob Wright Well-Known Member. Hodgdon Powder H4350 - 8 lbs SKU: 749008040 available Online at Brownells Today and many more Powder products are available in our Reloading Department. On the . IMR4831 shot well enough in both categroies, but the IMR7828 won out with producing the tiniest of groups while only losing the smallest margin in the velocity H4350 Vs. Can I still use this powder the same as the H-4350 un cut? And thanks guys. There are a few threads on site about the 4350s. The lot of A4350 (2021) I have is almost as slow as SW4350 (2021) H4350, N202 and Varget have been the most accurate with this bullet in this rifle, H4831SC has also been very good. ockafs ycjo bfps lrhbdk iomrra nqhgu qao xajgo fbqcr hjrax